The Legend won't be coming to the South Side
[SF Chronicle]:
- Jim looks at the remaining CF options. BTW, Kosuke Fukudome's projections: PECOTA: .289/.401/.504. CHONE: .283/.373/.465. ZiPS: .293/.382/.460.
- The Astros acquired Miguel Tejada for 5 players (outfielder Luke Scott, pitchers Matt Albers, Troy Patton and Dennis Sarfate and third baseman Mike Costanzo). Tejada has 2 players remaining on his contract. BTW, the A's sure like our relievers. And the Royals non-tendered OF Emil Brown.
- Hot Stove: Willie Randolph is considering Jason Marquis. And Omar wouldn't trade Milledge for Garland? -- The Padres signed Tadahito to a 1-year deal, and are after Mike Cameron, and Jason Bay. Scratch the Jason Bay part. -- The Rockies are targeting Luis Vizcaino. The Pirates too.
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*Whew*
by The Jerry Royster Experience on Dec 12, 2007 3:04 PM CST 0 recs
5 years for The Legend
by Big Daddy Kool on
Dec 12, 2007 3:06 PM CST
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Five years.
by dantesox on
Dec 12, 2007 3:07 PM CST
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I'll second that.
by palehose67 on
Dec 12, 2007 3:09 PM CST
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nice
by The Deacon on
Dec 12, 2007 3:11 PM CST
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Hello, 2009
by HulkSmash on Dec 12, 2007 3:06 PM CST 0 recs
The pain, only my enemies
Is it now official? KW has been pantsed by the Cubs, Giants, Angels, and Tigers. As Mel Allen once said, how about that?
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 3:09 PM CST
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I think the pantsing of KW
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:11 PM CST
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In what way...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 3:12 PM CST
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I think we can make the argument
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:14 PM CST
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Maybe...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 3:17 PM CST
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Irregardless...
I mean, I hear this rhetoric all the time, of 'well, it was a bad singing' coming from all over. Soriano was a bad signing, Hunter was bad, now Rowand is bad. So what's the alternative, never sign a big name? And what, rely on our farm system?
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:21 PM CST
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I agree...
I'd be interested if there's ever been a FA signing (aside from bargain ones like Dye) that JRE thought were good.
I agree that signing Hunter to a 5 year deal for $90M would have been bad.
But if the Sox had money to spend this offseason and that money disappears without adding much needed talent of any kind to the Sox this season, I'm not sure that's a good thing.
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 12, 2007 3:29 PM CST
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Context...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 3:41 PM CST
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Immovable contracts
by mdmnd9294 on
Dec 12, 2007 4:22 PM CST
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yeah
by larry on
Dec 12, 2007 4:27 PM CST
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It's not uncommon
KW should consider that if he was ever serious about moving Contreras, but maybe the White Sox piggy bank can't pull that off.
by mdmnd9294 on
Dec 12, 2007 4:39 PM CST
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But that...
And Williams is absolutely right to hold onto Contreras, at least for now. His trade value can't get much lower. Williams would have trouble getting a BP screen in exchange for Contreras right now. So why not give him a dozen starts or so in 2008, see if he can't put the pieces back together, and deal him to a pitching-starved contender?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 4:43 PM CST
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OK
But I'm not comfortable with the team relying on Contreras going into '08, but I agree there's not much to do. BP screen, indeed! That's a lot of "wishin' and hopin'", which I think the White Sox have done a lot of recently.
by mdmnd9294 on
Dec 12, 2007 5:16 PM CST
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some are more bad than others
by larry on
Dec 12, 2007 3:37 PM CST
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Your pro bono opinion?
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 12, 2007 3:47 PM CST
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owens is opening day CF
by larry on
Dec 12, 2007 3:49 PM CST
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Although that was directed towards Larry...
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:51 PM CST
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C'mon, JRE
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 3:16 PM CST
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There were no...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 3:18 PM CST
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So why did he set the expectation
Now, I agree, we can admit we may not BAG the big fish but instead will be SLEEPING with them for the near future.
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 3:20 PM CST
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Well...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 3:28 PM CST
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He did do something
by ChicagoPete on
Dec 12, 2007 3:45 PM CST
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The 2008 Payroll...
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 4:28 PM CST
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Really? I think this will be a .500
What did we lose? Garland, a draft pick, and a year of age for all of our aging players. I don't think that drags us back to last place. We'll just have a good chance of total collapse, is all.
by colintj on
Dec 12, 2007 5:32 PM CST
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He sort of has been pantsed
You can say that Williams hasn't done much to hurt the long-term future of the club (yet....), but protecting the "future" wasn't his goal this offseason as witnessed by his other moves.
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 12, 2007 3:20 PM CST
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Jimmy Two Times!
;)
by winningugly on Dec 12, 2007 3:06 PM CST 0 recs
haha
by ChicagoPete on Dec 12, 2007 3:13 PM CST 0 recs
IF....
If Cameron doesn't sign, I bet Kenny makes a trade. My anxiety there is dealing Fautino or Gio for marginal returns.
by asinwreck on
Dec 12, 2007 3:22 PM CST
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no way
by ChicagoPete on
Dec 12, 2007 3:27 PM CST
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Kenny Williams is committed to a championship!!!
by LVSoxFan on Dec 12, 2007 3:16 PM CST 0 recs
I feel bad for Buehrle
by ChicagoPete on Dec 12, 2007 3:16 PM CST 0 recs
He could've been caught in the
But if he's a serious ballplayer he must be envious as hell.
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 3:17 PM CST
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Hopefully he'll waive his NTC
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 12, 2007 3:23 PM CST
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Ha
by ChicagoPete on
Dec 12, 2007 3:25 PM CST
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In hindsight,
But Linebrink, oh Linebrink. At this point, failing to land any "big fish" as wu would say, does Kenny regret this signing?
by Toonderstrook on Dec 12, 2007 3:22 PM CST 0 recs
My thought exactly.
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 3:25 PM CST
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This is the question:
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:25 PM CST
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That's the $500,000 question...
My guess is that the Sox stand pat and simply not make any more moves this winter, but who knows?
by The Jerry Royster Experience on
Dec 12, 2007 3:27 PM CST
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What annoys me
Totally bass ackwards.
by ChicagoPete on
Dec 12, 2007 3:32 PM CST
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To top it off, Hunter isn't that good
If MCab was part of plan, that would be more understandable....
by hitlesswonder on
Dec 12, 2007 3:37 PM CST
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Kenny has a plan, oh yeah baby!
"I have a definite plan," Williams said Friday in a telephone interview while en route to an Arizona Fall League game. "The one challenge is our free-agent list and how much we can afford and how those players fit. But once those dominoes start to fall, things will start to fall quickly." Williams gave an emphatic "yes" when asked if he can make deals before Nov. 13--the first day teams can make financial offers to free agents.
Furthermore, Williams said Josh Fields' permanent position for 2008 would be revealed shortly, which could be predicated on a trade. "It will all be resolved soon," said Williams, who wouldn't share any hints.
Kenny, you were right - it's all been resolved. Yeesh. Now that the prime FAs who could actually make a 2-5 win impact are all spoken for, I just hope he doesn't freak out and start trading the few good young players we have in a desperate attempt to salvage 2008.
by ChicagoPete on Dec 12, 2007 3:23 PM CST 0 recs
Yeah, my wife PLANS
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 3:27 PM CST
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But Winning,
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:29 PM CST
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better late
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call........... the Kenny Zone.
by Air Raid Siren Stan on
Dec 12, 2007 4:03 PM CST
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We are now on to Plan QR-aa
by BobbySouthSide on
Dec 12, 2007 3:30 PM CST
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Just wait untill Soxfest....
by Tony82087 on Dec 12, 2007 3:28 PM CST 0 recs
Apology accepted...
And that's why "contract offers" don't mean sh!t until a player is signed.
by SSH2005 on
Dec 12, 2007 3:31 PM CST
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Mike Cameron...
So who does Kenny acquire once Cameron re-signs with the Padres?
Corey Patterson? Trade for Coco Crisp or Juan Pierre?
*pukes*
by SSH2005 on Dec 12, 2007 3:29 PM CST 0 recs
Ozzie wants his speed guy
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:37 PM CST
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You'll see a grown man cry,
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:40 PM CST
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but, but, but
by Toonderstrook on
Dec 12, 2007 3:43 PM CST
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If we could get him and Paul Byrd,
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:50 PM CST
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followed by
by Toonderstrook on
Dec 12, 2007 3:52 PM CST
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Only the ball was white
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 4:06 PM CST
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Keep your pants on
by LittleLooie on Dec 12, 2007 3:31 PM CST 0 recs
A few years ago
Not cool.
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 12, 2007 3:34 PM CST 0 recs
Where were
by Toonderstrook on
Dec 12, 2007 3:37 PM CST
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I think they were golfing?
Not too shabby. I'd rather have the WS Trophy though.
Looking at the 08' White Sox OF makes me puke.
by BobbySouthSide on
Dec 12, 2007 3:45 PM CST
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our opening day starting CF
they looked at him last year.
by The Deacon on Dec 12, 2007 3:42 PM CST 0 recs
Who are we kidding
He's gonna try to win it his way, with Owens in center feld.
I hate the 2008 season already
by Option27 on Dec 12, 2007 3:42 PM CST 0 recs
That makes me think of an old song...
When I hit the winter meetings, I've got no plan.
I just throw some quotes all over the press.
I can't give a dollar, if I haven't got 50 cents.
I motivate the Tigers, I like to tease.
I play so cool, they've got to compete with me.
That's why you all got here on the double
To catch me doin' the Free Agent Shuffle.
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 3:47 PM CST
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You are the freakin' MAN, Hulkster
by winningugly on
Dec 12, 2007 6:38 PM CST
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I've noted your creativity as well, WU...
by HulkSmash on
Dec 12, 2007 7:35 PM CST
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kw
by tdegard on Dec 12, 2007 3:48 PM CST 0 recs


